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Is Capital Punishment a Good thing or a Bad Thing?
Topic Started: Oct 24 2011, 11:24 PM (1,926 Views)
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I ok there has been debates on this topic a few times online. Most are just short but with so many people on here I want to see what you guys think of it? What does everyone think of Capital Punishment?
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Meowth
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That's pretty much all that needs to be said, I don't support capital punishment, I don't see a reason for it.
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If something is severe enough, then something severe must be done for them. It's not fair that so many people get let off with easy punishments. I support in most ways.
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Is life in prision an easy punishment?

It's not like the death penalty is a deterent either and if wrongly convicted, you can't undo it.
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Is life in prision an easy punishment?


Well you do get free healthcare, food, shelter, recreation time, get to make friends, etc.
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You get free healthcare in the UK anyway, lol.

And you aren't always going to make friends, it depends who you are and even so, you have little freedom.
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It's completely circumstantial. 95% of the time, I see it as terrible and unnecessary. However, with certain cases, such as the case with James Bulger. They were both imprisoned, released given new identities. Then one of them goes and commits another crime. I believe people like that should be put to death due to them being a persistent threat to society. That's my opinion.
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You get free healthcare in the UK anyway, lol.

Free = Higher Taxes
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Oct 24 2011, 11:37 PM
Is life in prision an easy punishment?

It's not like the death penalty is a deterent either and if wrongly convicted, you can't undo it.
Life in prison definitely isn't easy, it's got to have a huge negative psychological affect on a person. Though it is cheaper than sentencing someone to death.

The death penalty can be appealed or overturn due to for example problems with jury instructions (of course my knowledge is limited to the U.S)

I personally don't believe that all people deserve to live but unless the death penalty process can be expedited (which actually might be a bad thing) it won't really be effect. For the death penalty to be effective it must be carried out shortly after sentencing.
Edited by Green, Oct 24 2011, 11:50 PM.
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You get free healthcare in the UK anyway, lol.

Free = Higher Taxes
Argument for another time, I don't have tax comparisons at hand and this isn't the place to discuss it but it is money well spent.
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How can we judge who is and isn't worthy of death? Is there a chart or a scale which we can use to determine whether somebody has passed the point of no return? You're not solving anything by removing these people from the world either. Another always takes their place. Rather than just killing them, we should be trying various ways to reform them or prevent serious crimes from happening in the first place by identifying the root causes of common problems. Prevention is better than cure in this case. Execution solves nothing.


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Ok here is what I think. Capital Punishment in my opinion is very ineffective. I will state my reasons.

The first is the fact it could execute an innocent person. It is not common but it does happen every now and then. Even with the advance technology these days it is not 100 percent perfect. There will always be mistakes since we are human. Humans are not perfect and we cannot take chances with this in my opinion. Back in the 1800’s and early 1900’s it was even more common than it was before. If you remember the man Tory Davis he was not guilty. He wasn’t proven guilty and some people even admit lying on the case. He was executed. Since the 1970’s over 700 men have been put to death but that isn’t the scary part. The scary part is a whopping 100 people have walked off death row after new evidence emerged that proved their absolute innocence. So it is more common than most people think even these days. Also I am not talking about maybe the people could have or not been innocent but I am talking about these guys have been proven innocent by clean evidence!

Another reason is that it is shown that Capital Punishment doesn’t reduce crime what so ever. The crime rate barley changes at all with the Death Penalty. Another thing I think about it is that the death penalty is probably a easy way out. Being lock up in a room for 10 to 20 hours a day for the rest of your life while being worried about other people and being treated any kind of way isn’t easy either. It is probably harder than going through death. Knowing that no matter what you do you will never get out of that place. It would worry a lot of people.

Also the cost of it is very high. Look at this site. http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42

“California taxpayers pay at least $117 million each year post-trial seeking execution of the people currently on death row;

“With 11 executions spread over 27 years, on a per execution basis, California and federal taxpayers have paid more than $250 million for each execution.”

“It costs approximately $90,000 more a year to house an inmate on death row, than in the general prison population or $57.5 million annually.”

The cost for this are very high. Did you know that most people also spend lots of time on death row before being put to death. Here is an example.
“Viva Leroy Nash, the oldest person on death row in the U.S., died of natural causes on death row in Arizona on February 12, 2010. He was deaf, nearly blind, confined to a wheelchair and suffering from dementia and mental illness. He had been imprisoned almost continually since he was 15. He was sentenced to death in 1983. (Associated Press, Feb. 14, 2010).”

Many people spend 5 to 15 years before being put to death on average.

So that is the end of what I think.
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I don't support capital punishment at all, or any other unnecessary forceful punishment such as incarceration. If such things actually worked crime would have evaporated long ago. The way people are conditioned to deal with immoral behaviour is too reactive instead of preventative, then the punishment itself becomes a moral issue. For example, spanking a child will not fix their behaviour in the long run, there's data that shows their behaviour is likely to become worse. This is exactly where the shift in social values has to occur, starting within the family - eliminating child abuse.
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Not executing the worst of all criminals will result in a (likely minor) increase in the already overcrowded prisons. Correction (prisons) facilities are already having money issues, overcrowding issues, sexual assault issues, gang violence, drugs, etc. putting someone who was deemed worthy of the death penalty in the mix with other people (yes they'll be in a max security prison but that doesn't mean they'll be separated from everyone else) will increase the problems that already exist.

^that is just something to think about
Edited by Green, Oct 25 2011, 12:00 AM.
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